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Adam Sky
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Posted - 2006.01.05 00:21:00 -
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Edited by: Adam Sky on 05/01/2006 00:22:47 Got my Catalyst destroyer a few hour ago; but I'm at a complete loss at to which weaps and ammo to use...
I guess they should be small blasters, 4 perhaps, but which and what ammo?
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Adam Sky
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Posted - 2006.01.05 01:54:00 -
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Thx  Would a combination of the Ion blasters and 125mm work? What ammo would you suggest - I have trouble sorting out all the diff kinds? One last question - or two - 'kite'? 'tank'?
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Adam Sky
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Posted - 2006.01.05 02:55:00 -
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Edited by: Adam Sky on 05/01/2006 03:02:37 Thx.. Just to let you know what I have chosen for starters - I can always fiddle around with it, as I gain experience, add Nosferatus as I gain the neccesary skills, change ammo.
4 light Ion blasters 4 light 125mm rail guns Hybrid iron ammo, as it has reasonable damage (4 and 3) and a range bonus of 20% to compensate a bit for the short range of both weapon types - and it's cheap.. 2 civilian shield boosters 2 civilian armour repairs
That's it for now - very excited about trying it out... *heading out of secure space*
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Adam Sky
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Posted - 2006.01.05 03:43:00 -
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Well, I'm aware of the fact that my 'civillian crap' is not the best; but it's what my skill levels are good for atm - trust me, I'm working on it...
I'm heading towards 0.7 - 0.6 belts to see how it goes - I must get 'my wings', cant sit at home waiting for the ideal ship and skills. If I get my a** kicked; I'll hopfully learn something from it...
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Adam Sky
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Posted - 2006.01.05 10:33:00 -
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Thx guys..
Quote: FYI: when you say you are heading out of secure space, it generally means .4 or below. Space that is 'unsecure' from Concord protection, and somewhat free for all PVP.
Ah yes, now that you say it, I remember that from the tutorial - the learning curve is rather steep here, ehe. Your comment makes a lot more sense to me then...
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Adam Sky
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Posted - 2006.01.05 11:05:00 -
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Edited by: Adam Sky on 05/01/2006 11:06:59
Quote: 3 named NOS 4 Regulated Ion Blasters 1 named Afterburner 1 shield repair 2 Nanofiber mods (speed) 1 armor repair
Sry, but there is more here I don't understand - and don't know how I could understand. I've read tutorials and forums, tried to search the forums (eeek), but some of what you mention is still 'double dutch' to me. (This is after all the new player forum)
So, here goes:
Quote: Regulated Ion blasters
I've bought Ion blasters, but nowhere can I find 'Regulated' Ion Blasters
Quote: named Afterburner
Somebody explained that 'named' means they have a name in fron of them, well yeah; but what is the difference between named and un-named items, where do you get them and what should the name be?
Quote: shield repair
I can find no such thing - shield boosters, yes; but I've looked all over the market and can't find 'shield repair'.
Nanofiber mods - aye looks nice. Somebody seems to have cornered the market - they were 1400% over average last time I looked, very expensive 
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Adam Sky
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Posted - 2006.01.05 11:23:00 -
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Thx... I'll work on how to use the market.
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Adam Sky
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Posted - 2006.01.05 12:02:00 -
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Thx... Very helpfull all - I'm getting a lot of useful input here!
I want to thoroughly work my destroyer, get to know it, build skills, get ISK, work on the interface, before going on to the next class - probably a cruiser from what I've gained.
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Adam Sky
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Posted - 2006.01.05 16:15:00 -
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@Ikvar
Ehe, it's fine with me - just pour it on...
What I can't use today I might use tomorrow - ahem, if not exactly tomorrow then a little further in the future 
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Adam Sky
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Posted - 2006.01.05 19:38:00 -
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@Dhannil
Thx for the clarifications - they do help a lot 
I'm starting to get the feel of my catalyst, so far in 0.7 space, which is no problem at all - I hardly get scratched. So I'm dropping to 0.6 to see how that goes.
I've found out some of the pros and cons of my fitting and have started changin things around to get better results - I picked up a few promising mods as loot too.
The input here have been very valuable - helped me to get 'a flying start'...
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Adam Sky
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Posted - 2006.01.05 20:57:00 -
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@Smokem Sounds good to me...
I've aready found out that I prefer the 125mm rails to the blasters - got a nice afterburner as loot too.
What do you think af using Nosferatus?
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Adam Sky
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Posted - 2006.01.05 22:05:00 -
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I got a 'Monopropellant I Hydrazine Boosters' with 1120% velocity bonus as loot, It's Frigate class though; but as there is no Destroyer class after burners, it's either Frigate or Cruiser class - is this one ok for the destroyer?
I also got a '1MN Afterburner 1' with 105% vel. bonus, Frigate class.
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Adam Sky
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Posted - 2006.01.05 22:53:00 -
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Cool, thx - I'm close to having it re-fitted and all the skills in place. It's a bit of a mish-mash af the various suggestions and my ovn experience so far; but it's going to be better than what I started out with
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Adam Sky
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Posted - 2006.01.06 00:41:00 -
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OK, so this is what I ended up with for now. I mostly stuck to my guns and got rid of my 'civillian crap'  Some of it I got as loot from my test-run with the first configuration 
High slots: 2x Ion Blasters, 6x 125mm Rail Guns, assorted ammo for testing
Mid slots: Named After Burner (Monopropellant Hydrazine I Boosters v. 1125% velocity increase) Cap Recharger I
Low slots: Small Armor Repair I 50mm Reinforced Nanofiber Plates I 100mm Reinforced Titanium Plates I
So, we shall see *heading for space 0.6*
---------- There are many trails to the top of the mountain, but the view is always the same |

Adam Sky
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Posted - 2006.01.06 16:39:00 -
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@ Butter Dog
Quote: How did you get on?
Swell, thx - so far 
I approach the rats one at a time, orbit at best wep range - 5.000 to 10.000m depending on ammo (7.500 seems a good over-all compromise) - keep the after-burner hot and fire away with as many of the 125mm rails as the strength of the rat demands (havn't had much use of the Ion blasters)
Boy is that after-burner cool... it seems, so far, that the rats can barely hit me orbiting at full speed, while my shots go in just fine...
The present kitting of my Catalyst is certainly not set in stone - I'll keep fiddeling with it, try this try that.
Thx all for all the good input!
@ Shimas Thx for the offer  Seems that, in online game play, I'm pretty much a loner. I joined guilds a few times, but soon resignd again. I've gone hunting or training with friends a few times too, but I get impatient or want to do thing differently or something else - so I stopped that too, as I'd rather keep the friends, ehe. I've been approached by several corporations here in EVE, but so far I politely declined - keeping my mind open about a couple though, perhaps later. Atm I'm on such a steep learning curve that I barely have time for anything else...
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Adam Sky
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Posted - 2006.01.06 23:36:00 -
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@ Lygos I think I'm starting to get the gist of this - I actualy understand what you are saying, thx 
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Adam Sky
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Posted - 2006.01.07 04:18:00 -
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@Ferito Amore
Thats my understanding, partly confirmed by experiments. The Ion Blasters are for close up fighting - thats why ppl use Nosferatus with Ion Blasters, as the Nosferatus only work to around 2.200m. The advantage of this is probably that one can ,so to speak, duck under an opponent weaps (if they have a longer range) and do tremendous close up damage.
Atm I'm working with 125mm rails I and various ammo, which gives a range of approx 5.000 - 10.000m. If one combines that with speed (After Burner) it seems very efficient too.
The trouble for me right now, is figgerin out how to keep the proper distance - orbiting helps, but there must be other ways. Guess its about getting really familiar with the interface, and play at hours and star systems with little lag.
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Adam Sky
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Posted - 2006.01.08 12:11:00 -
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@Dhannil Thx Dhannil - your posts have been very helpful 
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Adam Sky
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Posted - 2006.01.08 12:56:00 -
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Thx to everybody! Without your inputs I couldn't have done this in such a short time...
Here is the final configuration (for now) of my Catalyst destroyer:
High slots: 6x 125mm Carbide Rail Gun I. The Carbide variation uses less capacitor power and givs a little better damage than the ordinary. With the lower power consumptions - combined with the equipping of the lower slots - is is barely possible to squeeze in 8 guns at my skill level.
Mid slots: Named After Burner (Monopropellant Hydrazine I Boosters v. 1125% velocity increase) Cap Recharger I
Low slots: Small Armor Repair I Energized Basic Adaptive Nano Plating. That one cost me - 400k! It was the only one on the regional market at the time. Capacitor Power Relay
The kitting is optimized for a 10 - 15 Kilometer fighting range at high speed, using Antimatter, Plutonium and Uranium ammo.
So far I've only used it down to 0.5 space against rats, in deadspace pockets I've found and in some of the tougher missions. Mostly the ship is barely scratched and I've only had to use the Armor Repair a few times, with lot's of margin still to go.
Hot jets...
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